Happy 60th Birthday Ken!!!

     Born on base at Camp Carson, Colorado on February 12, 1952, my brother Ken almost didn't make it to see the second day of his life.  Apparently, there was some medical issue and had our Dad not gone back to see how is baby son was doing following the birth, Ken would not have survived.  I, for one, am grateful that Dad was a doctor and was so quick to respond.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY KEN

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Finished--I guess NOT.....More Zeigler, Qween, Quinn Adventures.

     I have been researching the pants off these folks, primarily using online resources.  My last blog regarding Edna May Frederick Zeigler Gween, brings the reader up to date with all my latest research on her life. Now, I would like to continue with my first cousin once removed, her only child and daughter, Mary Alethea Zeigler Quinn.

Note:  I recently realized I was misspelling Mary's surname.
 It should be Zeigler.

     I have touched on Mary's life in other Frederick Family blogs.  Truthfully, I don't know all that much about her.  I never knew her.  My mother did not follow her cousin through the years, although they lived within a short drive of each other.  Perhaps it was an age difference as my mother was born when Mary was eighteen. 

     Fortunately, I have found a few tidbits among the memorabilia by my Mom and her Mom, my maternal grandmother, Martha Marie Frederick Stark. 

     Mary was born about 1903, probably in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania to Henry G. Zeigler and Edna Frederick Zeigler.  Her father, was a shoe salesman.  About 1915, when Mary was twelve, her parents divorced.  I have a World War I draft registration dated 1918 from her step father, William Clinton Gween, stating that he was married to Edna Frederick Zeigler. 

     From the two photos I have of Cousin Mary, she was a pretty young lady, favoring her mother, Edna May Frederick Zeigler Gween. 

Application for a Marriage License
Robert B. Quinn and Mary A. Zeigler

     

     On November 2, 1925, Mary A. Zeigler and Robert Bruce Quinn, son of Thomas Brown Quinn and Margaret Frances Wells Quinn applied for a marriage license in Pittsburgh, Allegheny County, Pennsylvania.  I have a little peek into the day of the wedding, November 4, 1925, thanks to my maternal grandmother and the typewritten account I found in my mother's "baby book".

     

Robert B Quinn and Mary A. Zeigler Quinn
circa 1925

     

December 17, 1928

     This was a fun little find on Ancestry.  Mary was an employee of Joseph Horne's in Pittsburgh and several of them are presenting  series of Christmas programs.  KDKA is a Pittsburgh station.

     On the 1930 Pennsylvania census, Bob is listed as a retail merchant for a garage.  Once again the waters become murky.  I have found a listing for about a ten year period from the late 1940's into the 1950's in Sharon, Pennsylvania for Robert B. and Mary Quinn.  

     In 1940, the Quinn's were renting a duplex apartment at 611 Aureliaus Street, Swissvale, Allegheny County, Pennsylvania.  Robert was employed as an assistant metal----.  Both Robert and Mary are high school graduates.   Mary's mother was not living with them in 1940.

     By 1942, Robert and Mary moved to Sharon, Pennsylvania slightly east from Youngstown, Ohio.  There are city directories for them in Sharon from 1942-1959.  Robert was employed as a factory worker with Westinghouse, although in 1945, he is listed as with the United States Navy.  There is then a gap between 1945-1952.  Could Robert have signed up to serve in World War II?  Robert B. Quinn did serve as a Corporal with the United States Marines during World War I from June 26, 1918 - April 15, 1919.

     I have a card from "Aunt Edna, Cousin Mary and Bob and "Bumper" the dog from 1952.  Perhaps Edna had moved to Sharon, Pennsylvania and was living with her daughter and son-in-law.

     Mary and Bob did not have any children.  My mother told me that she thought that in her later years, Edna lived with her daughter and son-in-law.  The last address I have for them in the 1960's is on Alpine Blvd in Pittsburgh, which appears to be in the Forest Hills section of town.

The Pittsburgh Press
Monday, October 6, 1969
page 40

     Mary Alethea Zeigler Quinn is buried in the same cemetery as her mother, William Penn Gardens of Remembrance located in Churchill, Allegheny County, Pennsylvania.  She died on October 4, 1969.

The Pittsburgh Press
September 27, 1971
page 39

     I did find an obituary and a veterans card for a Robert B. Quinn.  Robert died September 24, 1971 and is buried at Woodlawn Cemetery, Wilkinsburg, Allegheny County, Pennsylvania.  I wonder why Robert is buried in a cemetery in Wikinsburg and Mary is in Churchill?

     

Updated October 2023

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Finished.....although maybe not......

    Whenever I think I have found all I can about my maternal great grandaunt, Edna May Frederick Zeigler Gween and her daughter, Mary A. Zeigler Quinn, I come up with something new. I keep poking around looking for new leads, primarily for myself, as there were no descendants from this branch of the Frederick tree. Edna had only one child and her daughter, Mary, had none.

     First, I found that for over a decade, I have misspelled the Zeigler surname!  That took a short time to change all the various listing on FTM and out on the net.  Next, I found that Edna's first husband, Harry G. Zeigler was actually named Henry G. Zeigler....more corrections needed.  Is Harry a nickname for Henry????

Zeigler/Frederick marriage license

     Another little tidbit turned up when I located the marriage record for Henry and Edna dated 1899.  The Frederick family was living in Esplen, Pennsylvania at that time.  I knew they resided there by the 1900 Pennsylvania census report and apparently they relocated from Columbiana County, Ohio earlier. 

     Before finding the marriage license, I had estimated their marriage about 1899, since Edna was not enumerated with her Frederick family.  I was on target--their marriage was September 6, 1899 in Allegheny County, Pennsylvania.  The Zeigler Family lived in and around the greater Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania area.  Their daughter, Mary A. Zeigler was born about 1903.  So far I have not been able to locate her birth information. 

     Henry was a shoe salesman with a department store in Pittsburgh during the early days of their marriage.  The marriage came to an end about 1915.  By 1920, Henry went back to live with his parents.  I have not traced him further.

     Edna remarried by 1918, William Clinton Gween.  The Gween's made their home in various places in and around the greater Pittsburgh area.  William must have died by 1930.  Recently I located two city directory listings for Edna Gween.  She is living alone and there is no mention of her husband.  Edna was employed as a telephone operator.

     My mother once told me that she always thought that her Aunt Edna was gainfully employed as she seemed to have money for lunches out, nice clothes and would usually bring her a little present each time she visited.  She  had no memory of Aunt Edna's husband, although, I was told that at the funeral of my maternal grandfather, Charles Edward Stark, my mother's father, that it was said that Edna and Martha, my mother's mother, might become closer now that they were both widows. 

     The only record I have of Aunt Edna's death and burial was written in the back of several of my maternal grandmother, Martha Marie Frederick Stark's, annual date books.  Edna died on January 25, 1961 and is buried at William Penn Memorial Cemetery.  I have not visited the cemetery and do not have any photographs of the memorial marker.

Also on Flipside:
1. Edna May Frederick Zeigler Gween

2. Edna May Frederick Zeigler Gween and Mary A. Zeigler Quinn

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Ten year mystery solved ????? Or just more questions !!!!

     I found this old cabinet card photograph at least ten years ago in a cardboard box of items that once belonged to my paternal grandmother, Sarah Margaret VanGilder Hughes.  The mystery--who are these people? 

     It made sense to me that the baby was my paternal grandmother with her parents, George Ethelbert VanGilder and Jessica Pool VanGilder.  The question was...why did they go from Morgantown, West Virginia to McKeesport, Pennsylvania to have a photograph taken?  Were there family members living in McKeesport that they were visiting and while there, decided to have the local photographer take the picture?

     Although I haven't come to a definite conclusion to this photo mystery, I have recently found a piece of information that gives me a clue.  Once again I am turning to those newly added Pittsburgh City Directories that are on ancestry.com.  I think I have put every possible Pittsburgh family name into the search engine.  On a whim, I decided to try the surname "Pinyerd".  John A. and Sarah Pool Pinyerd lived in North Charleroi, Pennsylvania in the early 1900's and although North Charleroi is quite a ways down the Monongahela River from Pittsburgh, it was worth a shot. 

     Up came this record!  John A Pinyerd did live in McKeesport, Pennsylvania in 1897.  WHOA!!!  Unfortunately, this is the only city directory with their name listed.  Sarah Pool Pinyerd was my paternal great grandmother's sister.   I do know that Sarah Pinyerd was back in Morgantown, West Virginia on the 1900 census.  If the Pinyerd's were still living in McKeesport in 1899, that baby could be my grandmother OR this could be a picture of John and Sarah Pinyerd with their little daughter that died as an infant or child.

     The man in the photograph appears to have brown eyes.  The few photos I have of my paternal great grandfather show him with light eyes, probably blue.  The woman in the photograph favors my paternal great grandmother, but her face is somewhat fuller in photos I have that were taken during the late 1890's. 

     My money is on the Pinyerds; however, I will never probably know for sure.  They had no descendants.

Additional Pinyerd blogs on Flipside:

John A. Pinyerd

Sarah Ann Pool Pinyerd

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William Christian Olesen--Naturalization Petition

William Christian Olesen
Petition for Citizenship 1930

Again, Flipside scored a new documents for my paternal great grand uncle, William Christian Olesen--his Certificate of Arrival in the United States, the 1928 Declaration of Intention for Citizenship and his 1930 Petition for Citizenship.  Thank you ancestry.com.

William Christian Olesen
Certificate of Arrival

Oddly, the information on Great Grand Uncle Bill's Certificate of Arrival, which was used as the basis of his petition to become a US citizen, is actually the second time he traveled from England to America. As mentioned in an earlier blog, Bill first came to the US with his sister, my paternal great grandmother, Elizabeth Olesen Hughes, on August 7, 1910 from Liverpool, England on the ship, Celtic. Uncle Bill lived with his sister and her husband, John George Hughes, in Woodlawn, Pennsylvania and was probably employed then with J & L Steel.

Bill traveled back to England in the summer of 1920. On the voyage back he was accompanied by his mother, Ferdinande Weiss Olesen and his sister, Emily Olesen Richards. They arrived at Ellis Island on July 24, 1920 on the S.S. Aquitania. It is this arrival in the United States that was used for the petition for citizenship.

I have never found citizenship papers for my paternal great great grandmother, Ferdinande Weiss Olesen. Perhaps she was "grandfathered" in with her son, Bill Olesen. That might make sense since she accompanied him on the voyage.

William Christian Olesen
Declaration of Intention 1928

These documents give me a better picture of how Uncle Bill looked. I never realized how big a fellow he was, standing at 6 feet tall and weighing 210 pounds. The papers also confirm that he was a locomotive fireman and that he was living with my great grandparents at 131 Spring Street in Woodlawn, Pennsylvania.

Now if I could only find a photograph!

Tombstone Tuesday:William Christian Olesen on Flipside.

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Working Gal--Sarah Margaret VanGilder

     My Grams, paternal grandmother, Sarah Margaret VanGilder Hughes, was a member of the Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania work force before she married George Henry Hughes in 1921.  I was told she was a stenographer/secretary; however, until this week I never knew just where she was employed, nor did I have confirmation of her employment.

     The 1917 Pittsburgh City Directory had a listing for her. At age nineteen she was a stenographer aka typist for The Sloan Typewriting Bureau. Also of interest in the directory is her home, which is listed as Wilkinsburg, Pennsylvania. 

     It appears that Grams had to travel into Pittsburgh from Wilkinsburg, probably on a bus or streetcar.  The Sloan Typewriter Bureau is advertised as the "oldest circular letter company in Pittsburgh."  I had to google "circular letter" to find out what it was.  Grams spent her work days typing and retyping the same form letter which was sent to groups of customers from various businesses. 

     She was a typist.  I have numerous cards and letters that my Mother and I saved, typed by Grams.  In 1977/1978, at age seventy-nine, she was still using a typewriter to write to me when I was pregnant with my first son.  

     Naturally as I am writing this, my mind is wandering to where Grams was at in her relationship with my paternal grandfather in 1917.  They had met about 1915 and were dating, although she was living in the Pittsburgh area and he was living with his folks up the Ohio River in Woodlawn, Pennsylvania.  

     It was on August 1, 1917 that George Henry Hughes joined the Canadian Expeditionary Force,  as a member of the 20th MGF (Machine Gun Force).  Pop Pop was discharged on May 16, 1919 and they were married a little more than a year later, on June 5, 1920 in Fairmont, Marion County, West Virginia.  I imagine that Grams was working as a typist up until she married.

     I do not believe that Grams worked outside the home following her marriage; however, her typewriting skills stayed with her forever.

FROM MY BROTHER, JEFF--interesting historical tidbit. Back in 1917, the person using the machine was known as a "typewriter". The word "typist" came later.

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Frederick Family Genealogy--Pittsburgh City Directories

Ancestry.com continues to add scans of records that have been valuable to my family research.  One of the most recent are two Pittsburgh Pennsylvania City Directories.  In the past I have gone through some late 1800's and early 1900's Pittsburgh City Directories on microfilm at the library.  Either that library did not have the 1904 and 1907 City Directory, or I was unaware at the time, that my Frederick family was then living in the Pittsburgh area.

I was delighted to find a record of my maternal great grandfather, Alfred Frederick, one of his daughters and my maternal grandmother, Martha Marie Frederick and one of his sons, Robert Frederick in the 1904 Pittsburgh City Directory.  On the 1900 Pennsylvania Census, the Frederick family is living in Esplen Borough, Pennsylvania, along the Ohio River.  Apparently, by 1904, the family moved into the city of Pittsburgh, on 5125 Liberty Avenue.  There must have been a train switch yard near their apartment, as Alfred was employed as a switch tender for the railroad; a job he had held for several decades.  This section of Liberty Avenue is near the Bloomfield area of town.

The second city directory is dated 1907.  The family has moved across town, near the Monongehala River on Craft Place.  My excitement with this record is that my maternal grandmother is listed, along with the place of her employment and the phone number.  My mother, her daughter, had told me that Teek (my pet name for my grandmother) was employed as a stenographer before she married.  This is the first record that proves my mother's memory was correct.  I have to check further, but I believe that my grandparents met through work.  I have to explore further where my grandfather's place of employment was in 1907.

I do not know how many years the Frederick's had a city address. More research is needed; however, I do know that they were living in Bellevue, Pennsylvania when my maternal great grandmother, Lucinda Orr Frederick died on December 15, 1909.

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